Council’s forestry approach Debate
Community Wellbeing - Safety and Security
Option 2
The majority of residents supporting Option 2 emphasize the significant environmental and safety benefits of transitioning to a continuous canopy of mixed species. They highlight that such a change would mitigate risks associated with erosion, flooding, and fire hazards, particularly in light of increasing extreme weather events due to climate change. Additionally, the continuous canopy approach is seen as crucial for stabilizing soil, reducing sedimentation in waterways, and enhancing the overall aesthetic and recreational value of the area, thereby contributing to the community's wellbeing and safety.
Table of comments:
| Point No | Comment |
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| 15.2 | A perprtual canopy forest will be valuable protection against erosion due to flooding, slowing the water run-off.Clear felling forest on steep country causes a large part of the erosion we see in the estuary.I support the vison to move from a Clear-felling op, to a perpetual Canopy forest. |
| 43.3 | This is a no brainer, forestry slash has had devastating the Matai river and regional waterways for to long. The increase in sentiment on our ocean floor from flooding of our rivers although unsubstantiated is of real concern. |
| 92.3 | I think option 2 (exit commercial forestry over time) is definitely the right direction for Nelson as the hills surrounding the city and up the adjacent valleys, are subject to slips and erosion , causing flooding and sedimentation in the valleys which has severe adverse consequences for nelson property and people, as we have seen in the 2022 flooding event. Commercial forestry in these areas adds to the risks by leaving large amount of slash which have caused significant damage in previous weather events. Restoring a canopy, particularly natives, over time also enhances our biodiversity, (adding to the halo effect from the Waimarama Brook sanctuary), is also a postive response to climate change and allows greater opportunities for outdoor recreation close to the city. This change would enhance the city overall and make Nelson a better place to live. |
| 114.3 | Need to have a canopy of trees around the hills to help prevent future run off and logging spills. |
| 119.3 | I believe there are many reasons why this is the correct approach for Nelson. The restoration of native forest would help reduce biodiversity loss, sequester carbon (which is absolutely urgently required as one essential strategy to slow clinate change), provide a natural visual backdrop to more parts of Nelson ( the aesthetics of which would benefit tourism), provide healthier recreational opportunities, improve soils and reduce slip danger (which is an obvious major concern with increasingly more extreme weather events).There is the possibility of revenue from recreational us of the restored native forests by tourists. |
| 138.2 | I would like to see the Council move to a forestry transition model as recommended by the taskforce. Maintaining a continuous canopy of forests is essential to build more resilient land management systems that have native bush at the heart of them. Transitioning to thriving, biodiverse continuous canopy forests would (eventually) enhance the conservation and recreation value of our forested areas for future generations. This is key to ensuring robust forests of the future that are better placed to help us cope with a changing climate and future catastrophic weather events. They also just look, sound and feel so much healthier than mono-forested areas |
| 199.1 | I commend the council on its option two as it sets an example for private commercial foresters to transition to continuous canopy practices. At present , large clear felled areas of harvested pine forest pose an extreme risk to Nelson of flooding during high rainfall events. These events are occurring more often as a result of climate change. A forest with a continuous canopy absorbs up to 60% of the rainfall. The other negative impact of large clear felled areas is the increase in soil and sediment loss during rainfall events. This material ends up in the river, estuaries and Tasman Bay , and its associated problems are well documented by numerous studies by Cawthron and other reports. I would encourage Council to strongly lobby central government to overhaul the present NES-PF rules and consent conditions as they are totally out of date with current scientific evidence and best practice overseas. |
| 223.3 | Very important to mitigate future disasters along the Maitai river and tributaries. No one enjoys the mono culture! |
| 230.3 | With all the slips, a more diverse forest already shows, that they can hold the banks better. |
| 252.2 | I am flabbergasted that any other approach than this would even be an option to any sane individual with a long term view! It is clear to me that Nelson's social and commercial value (via tourism) lies in its exceptional natural beauty and close proximity to pristine natural environments. This is all put at risk by running commercial logging right on our doorstep that scars the landscape, pollutes our rivers, and ruins our natural environment. But an even bigger issue than that, is protecting our homes and our very lives from the ever-increasing risk of fire in this changing climate. We know that longer hot, dry spells are coming, and that means elevated fire risk. We are now seriously at risk of most or all of Nelson going up in flames, and probability tells us the fire will start in a pine forest on the city limits. Its a complete no-brainer to protect our city by removing the pines and replacing them with a protective barrier of native forest. Surely the insurance premium savings alone, would cover the cost to do this! |
| 275.3 | i would like to see a more environmentally minded shift away from forestry. This would create a more biodiverse environment, allow for the halo effect of the brook sanctuary to take off and reduce fire risks etc in the summer..i would like to see this shift still allowing for recreational access- and infact improve recreational access to these areas- mountain biking could be improved as the trails wouldnt be damaged and closed intermittently due to forestry works and it potentially become a real draw for mountain biking tourism to the region |
| 289.3 | Native cover is best for flood protection, fire protection and cabon sinc. |
| 289.3 | Native cover is best for flood protection, fire protection and cabon sinc. |
| 309.1 | This is the only way to help future safe Nelson and the Nelson community from adverse weather events and it is also a better, more financially viable (given status quo is not returning any profit/rate relief to ratepayers) and more environmentally responsible land use for the Nelson owned forestry estate. We are a community full of people the value recreation and the more opportunities we can provide the better. It will provide Nelson with more environmental resilience over time and will actually provide meaningful value to the Nelson community and wider environment.Well done to the taskforce and councillors for taking this on and accepting the taskforce recommendations. |
| 323.3 | This is critical for biodiversity, to reduce hazards - slips, flooding, fire risk, wear and tear on infrastructure and will capture carbon in the long term.Any continuing forestry operations should have permanent plantings on all edges. Jobs will be created for weed control and caring for the forests. The fazing out plantings should include hardwood trees such as Eucalyptus saligna and sweet chestnut, Castanea sativa for durable timber production. A plan for the timing is important, to be sure it occurs. |
| 377.1 | I live in the Maitai Valley and have seen our beautiful river suffer from the effects of the forestry. Trees to expensive to harvest due to their close proximity to the river and walkway are left to fall over by themselves. During a dry summer of which we had plenty lately the risk of fires in tinder dry forests is waiting to happen. |
| 400.3 | the slips we have seen are largely contributed due to the de-forrestation. Plqnt natives to hold our soil and hills together |
| 408.3 | costings never account for the negative harm caused by forestry. I had huge costs and inconvenience from the August storm and not a word from the forestry companies. An offer of help or timber would have been appreciated. There should be continuous forest cover to stabilize the soil and to lock in the carbon. |
| 416.1 | Currently most commercial forestry on steepland involves the clearcutting of Radiata pine as is the case for NCC commercial plantations. Radiata is a relatively low value timber which requires clearcutting to be economic. However, this clearcutting inevitably results in externalised costs such as sedimentation of waterways, and the risks of landslides and flooding. Nelson and a number of other places have experienced this recently and the risks are increasing as the effects of climate change increase. |
| 416.1 | Currently most commercial forestry on steepland involves the clearcutting of Radiata pine as is the case for NCC commercial plantations. Radiata is a relatively low value timber which requires clearcutting to be economic. However, this clearcutting inevitably results in externalised costs such as sedimentation of waterways, and the risks of landslides and flooding. Nelson and a number of other places have experienced this recently and the risks are increasing as the effects of climate change increase. |
| 435.1 | The soil types and erosive nature of the slopes mean that any clear- felling of forests is always going to result in flooding and slips downstream. Current methods of logging where logs are left to rot or get washed down stream are irresponsible in an environment of residential and urban properties and activity. In an era of warming climate and more rain we need to keep an evergreen forest cover to absorb the rainfall and prevent massive slips of silt and topsoil and slow the pace of rainfall entering the streams and rivers in the valley below, to avoid the consequences of flooding. |
| 435.1 | The soil types and erosive nature of the slopes mean that any clear- felling of forests is always going to result in flooding and slips downstream. Current methods of logging where logs are left to rot or get washed down stream are irresponsible in an environment of residential and urban properties and activity. In an era of warming climate and more rain we need to keep an evergreen forest cover to absorb the rainfall and prevent massive slips of silt and topsoil and slow the pace of rainfall entering the streams and rivers in the valley below, to avoid the consequences of flooding. |
| 442.2 | I support the council's proposal for the move to exit commercial forestry. I believe any consideration of costs needs to include the downstream effects of harvesting sediment and flooding, and I support a shift to forestry with a continuous canopy of mixed species, including natives and high value hardwoods. |
| 447.3 | There is an aesthetic issue: pinus radiata and it's destructive harvesting cycle result in a hideous backdrop to our city. What I think we need is the range of colour, shape and size that comes from re-cloaking the hills with native speciesThere is an environmental issue: the run-off from pine forests and the impact of a one species is devastating for water quality, soil quality and diversity of flora and fauna.There is an economic issue: these forests do not pay their wayThere is a resiliency issue: the hills surrounding Nelson are vulnerable to severe rain events of which there have been many in the past 4 decades I have lived here. Pinus radiata forests do not improve the resiliency of the land in these events - native forests do. There are many people who would volunteer to plant natives as my community has done in Murphy St and both the east and west slopes of upper Emano St - we would all help again! |
| 459.1 | There are several compelling reasons to allow the Maitai Valley to revert to native forest. First, commercial logging on steep hills is bound to cause erosion, adversely effecting the river's health. Also it is good for biodiversity - we need as broad a range of species, eg pollinating insects, as possible. And as an active beekeeper, I'm mindful that the original species, largely manuka and kanuka, are a source of high-value honey. |
| 463.2 | Yes, Yes, Yes. I commend the Council for seeking change at last. Several generations of my family lived and farmed in the Maitai Valley at Smith's Ford. I grew up in the valley too, and I am so strongly against the pine plantations in the valley. They have degraded the river and valley badly. Please get rid of commercial forestry ASAP !Continuous cover forest will greatly improve the recreational value of the valley, improve the ability of the forest to slow water run-off in high rainfall events, improve water quality and any extra cost to the Council will be offset by the huge savings being made by eliminating the unseen effects of harvesting, sediment and flooding in the valley and marina. |
| 507.1 | This is a move toward protecting houses and land from future flood damage, an improvement in forestry use by people, an improvement visually in the backdrop to our city, and a saving in the cost of cleaning up slash and flood damage. It is the responsible choice for the future. |
| 529.3 | Commercial forestry close to residential areas is impractical and unsafe - native forests make more sense. |
| 542.1 | Kia ora, Considering the current state of the environment and degradation trends we need to take action before it is too late. For this reason option 2 is best for our future. Not changing over to mixed canopy is shortsighted and result in further erosion/flooding issues. I believe any consideration of costs needs to include the downstream effects of harvesting sediment and flooding.Nga mihi,Thalassa |
| 550.3 | Yes it may cost more dollars in the short term but the payback in environmental benefits and reduced risk of property damage in heavy rain events will be massive |
| 559.3 | This is a fabulous solution and one that I have been pushing for for years now. As native forests are more resistant to drought and fire, and don't need to be logged, it will enable: |
| 650.1 | It would appear as though the council has never made a profit over the duration of forestry on its land. It would appear to be a liability and problematic for the council.Please plant in natives and/or exotics that in years to come will provide a wonderful backdrop for the city. It will also drastically reduce or remove the hazards associated with forestry. |
| 657.1 | a continuous and mostly native forest around Nelson would be a huge improvement for recreational amenity, aesthetics, and enhanced support to the halo-effect from the Brook sanctuary. We have seen multiple times the problems arising from clear-felling of pine forests in terms of the cost and inconvenience to ratepayers from an activity which seeks to provide profits for companies at the expense of the general public and ratepayer.this is another opportunity for Nelson to single itself out as the best living environment in NZ, bar non. Having a city backdrop of native forest and clear rivers would enhance the city well beyond any economic profit or loss equation |
| 670.1 | I support the move to continuous canopy, and feel the benefits outweigh the projected costs. I don't support commercial pine forestry on council land in our city hinterland as clear felling can result in erosion and degradation to water quality and risks during flooding. As well as reducing those risks there other benefits to having a more continuous forest cover including higher species diversity and improved recreation and aesthetic values in our city hinterland. |
| 674.3 | We should not allow a clear felling approach to forestry in the Maitai Valley. Leaving the slopes of the Maitai river clear of trees would certainly have worsened the flooding in 2022 due to increased water levels and debris. The clear felling of forests is also contributing to silt deposits in the haven and Tasman Bay, impacting wildlife. |
| 687.3 | The taskforce has produced sound reasons for this new approach e.g. improving soil stability on slopes and eliminating forestry slash problems.Note: Other commercial forestry on the city fringe will continue to cause problems until better harvesting and slash management regimes are implemented. |
| 695.3 | I strongly support the planting of a variety of native and exotic trees to replace the pine forests. This will help stabilize our hillsides and reduce forestry slash which can have devastating effects on private/ public land and also our waterways. Forestry slash ends up on our beaches. It is important that our community works toward reducing our carbon emissions and these permanent forests would absorb and store carbon. They also provide recreational opportunities. |
| 706.1 | I support the Councils preferred option as hopefully it will reduce future flood damage, as well as problems in the harbour caused by slash |
| 706.1 | I support the Councils preferred option as hopefully it will reduce future flood damage, as well as problems in the harbour caused by slash |
| 720.3 | Absolutely!. Commercial forestry is selling the nutrients of our land and puttling our water and communities at risk. |
| 756.2 | Make forestry grow a native buffer between forestry and roads and also waterways. To help stop the mess caused by landslides (especially after logging)covering roads and blocking waterways. |
| 807.3 | Commercial forestry on our Nelson hills is ridiculous and an enormous strain on our environment. 1: Monteray pines and Douglas fir forests are vectors for environmental weeds like pampas and old man's beard. These invade natural places like the Maitai and degrade the habitat. Additionally the pine species themselves become weeds.2: siltation, slips and nutrient run off degrades our freshwater ecosystems, landscapes and ocean ecosystems. Silt has major effects on bivalves, seaweeds and biodiverse habitats on the coast. Revegetating pine forests with native vegetation will also allow native coastal ecosystems to recover. Native fish species will also benefit.3: Native forest will be better for carbon sequestration, biodiversity and aesthetics. Forestry does not sequester carbon as well as forever native forests. Biodiversity can be enhanced by creating habitat for endangered birds, plants, lizards and snails that are unique to nelson. The belt of forestry is an eye sore, with horrific scars left by erosion and open felled sections.4: forestry poses a fire risk to biodiverse areas as well as being a danger to people.I ask that you consider the populations of brown creepers that live in forestry sections around marsden valley that may become extirpated by felling. Explore ways to mitigate this damage. I do not wish that this land be reused for housing or farming or other developments, but to be revegetated with native plants and maintained to avoid them becoming weedy or overrun with browsing pests. |
| 822.1 | Pine plantations have attributed negatively during recent flood events and have seriously impacted the health of the Maitai river. Retiring the forest to native planting will be a positive move. |
| 835.1 | You have asked for a public endorsement of the proposal to move away from Radiata and towards a continuous canopy of mixed species. I fully support this approach.I consider it a priority that the areas which are currently bare (having been harvested) should be replanted in appropriate, permanent, native tress as soon as is practicable. A repeat of the August 2022 rain event is inevitable, and thoughtful planting now could serve to reduce the flood damage downstream.In the medium and longer term, there is considerable benefit in a continuous canopy from both an ecological and a water management point-of-view.Although you have suggested that Nelson could claim some kudos as a leader in future-focused land management, we actually have much to learn from other cities that have already moved in this direction. In particular, I am thinking of Rotorua, where the forest close to the city is managed primarily for recreation and the city is now a "mountain bike magnet" for the whole North Island. (You could research the estimated economic benefit that bikers bring to the city.) Similarly, Wellington manages its' forest primarily for water and allows recreation. Both examples show that trees can have much more value when left standing than when harvested.I am not sure if you will have considered all of the implications of the proposed change of approach - for example the control of invasive pests (rodents, mustelids etc) in bush areas around the city typically falls to small informal groups of volunteers. I am involved with one in the Maitai. If, over time, we are to see an expansion of the area covered in mixed, diverse forest species, we can also expect to see an expansion of the range and number of pests. The Council could look to increase the support and funding that it offers to groups involved in pest control, and I suggest that The Council also has a role in publicly acknowledging the work of these volunteers and in encouraging others to join in with the work. |
| 860.1 | 1. Pine (Eucalyptus and other fire species) have aromatic, volatile oils which rise in the air and can attract fire from a great distance, depending on the wind conditions. A few decades age there was a severe drought and a very frightening fire up the Maitai Valley. Homes had to be abandoned. It was striking that the native forest remnants in the valleys did not burn. It is likely that the valley sides were too steep for easy pine planting. Similarly, there was a severe fire on the west facing slope of Tirohia Marama (aka Grampians) and again pines easily burnt.2. Logging trucks will eventually not need to use Nile Street and side streets and CBD roads to get to the Port. This will reduce traffic and congestion.3. Permanent native forest will sequester Carbon over a long period in contrast to the short commercial logging cycle. |
| 864.3 | We support the exit of commercial forestry and the development of a climate friendly regional economy in parallel to manage the impact on job losses.Cyclone Gabrielle has demonstrated the horrific environmental impact of commercial forestry in the event of a weather event. Moving our community towards climate resilience should be considered a high priority, and commercial forestry hold us back from this. |
| 881.3 | Forestry with a mono-culture of pines has proven disastrous in every country on this planet. Our hills are too steep slash disasters after heavy rain loss of top soil clogging the rivers destroying bridges then clogging beaches polluting the water our lungs with the heavy pollen ...need more scientific reports that it seems members of NCC are not informed of!!! |
| 883.3 | I'm strongly in favour of surrounding Nelson in forests that are less of fire hazard & have more environmental resilience in rain/ storm events. Part of this plan should include the addition of recreational infrastructure like walking/ mountain biking tracks into the replanted forests. Quality recreational infrastructure is a draw card for visitors, residents & talented people looking to move to Nelson. |
| 894.3 | Yes, support reindigenising our forests and moving away from pine forestry to native high value forest, it would be best in my opinion to plant natives only or possibly very well researched exotics amongst natives if the experts want that but ideally natives especially on steeper areas and maybe food producing exotics/fruit trees in high use public or designated forgaing areas makes sense to me. Also ensure the changeover of tree types is done bit by bit to avoid higher cost flood or slip events |
| 898.2 | As a participant in the Right Tree, Right Place workshops - it is absolutely crucial that Council takes this opportunity to shift away from the current approach which is aggravating soil and erosion loss, creates an unsightly backdrop to the city when harvesting is underway, and does not stack up as a wise investment. The alternative provides multiple co-benefits, and the opportunity to show leadership, improve biodiversity and climate resilience, and to create a more pleasant backdrop to the wider Nelson City environs. |
| 909.3 | The downstream impacts of commercial forestry in the catchments behind our wee city were clear to me as one of many who sought to try and clean up the water and the beaches after the August 2022 rainfall event. The increased sedimentation in our rivers and estuaries from clear-felling practices cause further issues. I also have concerns around what happens when exotic pinus radiata plantations become uneconomic to harvest due to the price of carbon. These monoculture biodiversity 'deserts' are not what we want on the fringes of our city in the future. The proposed continuous canopy mixed species forestry provides a fantastic opportunity to bring a recreational focus to the councils forested areas. |
| 931.2 | Pine forestry has created so many problems, increasing flooding with slash that block waterway and retain water. Silting of the Nelson estuary is a problem as not all the fine particles accumulated along the Sewer plan road access during the August 2022 are not being wash out by the tidal currents.There are no scallops left n Tasman Bay as the bay floor is covered in silt from forestry once it is harvested. |
| 946.2 | I support the Council’s proposal to exit from commercial forestry. Having permanent native forest in the hills around Nelson will reduce risk from high rainfall events and reduce sedimentation of local waterways and estuaries. |
| 987.3 | We concur with the findings of the Right Tree Right Place Task Force that all current NCC commercial forests should be transitioned into continuous-canopy forest systems, mostly of mixed species, that best meet community values and address climate risks. We support the exit of commercial forestry and the development of a climate friendly regional economy in parallel to manage the impact on job losses. Cyclone Gabrielle has demonstrated the horrific environmental impact of commercial forestry in the event of a weather event. Moving our community towards climate resilience should be considered a high priority, and commercial forestry holds us back from this. |
| 995.3 | This will be a great benefit to Nelson city. Native bush not only looks nicer as the backdrop for the city, but it enables a better interaction with nature and wildlife for all. Just seeing the destruction of the land from the last round of forestry down the Maitai valley it was pretty obvious that we can do better than that. Seeing the slips and the runoff during the floods, all the wood slash going down our rivers certainly made the floods worse. Having a native bush will not only help protect us from run off in the future but will help reconnect Nelson residents and visitors alike with our natural suroundings. I whole heartedly support this initiative. Great job bringing it to the forefront. |
| 1001.4 | 3Forestry: Option 2. Pine plantations are fires waiting to happen and with our rising potential for droughts and electrical storms, their risks outweigh the gains in urban settings. |
| 1003.3 | Regrowing native bush both works against climate disruption generally and also helps to shore up Nelson's defences against the extreme weather events we can expect from our refusal to stop burning fossil fuels. |
| 1009.3 | I would prefer us to exit it as quickly as possible. Allowing our native bush to regenerate would help lessen disruption due to the climate crisis, and would provide some defence against the extreme weather events we can expect from our refusal to stop burning fossil fuels. |
| 1024.3 | I have seen the forestry companies abuse the "health and safety" clause to exclude the public from council land. They have claimed "dangerous operations" while nothing was being done and no workers were on the hill. They also should be held accountable for slash runoff into the streams and rivers. Please maintain access to the top of Barnicoat via glider road. Hundreds if not thousands of Nelsonian and tourist Mtn bikers and Paragliders use the road to enjoy our beautiful region. (They also support the local economy). The paragliding club also maintains the top and would appreciate the opportunity to guide the planting. we would also appreciate support for future access to Kaka Peak and Fringed Hill in Maitai Valley.When the area below Barnicoat is developed (as marsden valley has been) we need a landing area east of the high power lines. Thank you |
| 1034.3 | I support the Council's recommendation that they change their practice to grow a continuous canopy of mixed species. This outcome will help mitigate the effects of severe storms as seen in August 2022 when pine forest slash were washed down the slopes and caused damage. It also will support keeping the hillsides intact from erosion and our declining biodiversity as well as sequestering carbon. It is the choice for the times. |
| 1047.3 | I support the Council’s proposal to exit from commercial forestry. Although the consultation documents highlight the costs of transitioning from commercial forests, there are also considerable benefits of doing so, which I consider more than justifies the costs. Having permanently forested area around Nelson will reduce risk from high rainfall events and reduce sedimentation of local waterways and estuaries, increasing Nelson’s resilience to climate change. |
| 1057.3 | I support the Council’s proposal to exit from commercial forestry. Although the consultation documents highlight the costs of transitioning from commercial forests, there are also considerable benefits of doing so, which I consider more than justifies the costs. Having permanently forested area around Nelson will reduce risk from high rainfall events and reduce sedimentation of local waterways and estuaries, increasing Nelson’s resilience to climate change. |
| 1093.3 | Lets show other regions that forestry is not the only option. All forestry developments should have a corridor of at least 0.5km mixed species on their boundaries, negating the disruption to roading, traffic as well as reduce the issue of slash causing flooding and slips. |
| 1099.3 | I would like to see the exit of exit commercial forestry in favor of local recreation and adventure tourism. In particular biking trails need to be preserved and our paragliding sites need both preservation and expansion. The Barnicoat paragliding site is constantly threatened by forestry and this is an iconic part of Nelson. Whatever decision is made i would like to see consideration for paragliding community. |
| 1108.3 | Commercial forestry is unsustainable, unsightly, incredibly damaging to our precious soil layer and every time an area is clear-felled a lot of soil is lost. It ends up in Tasman bay affecting the whole marine ecology of the bay and destroying the first step of the food chain and hence all steps of the food chain. We should end pine forestry in the catchment area of Tasman Bay at least. Forestry slash and irresponsible forestry practices have also caused signficant damage to landscapes and houses from flooding in the past, and this needs to stop immediately to prevent further catastrophic events. |
| 1120.3 | To whom it may concern,As a member of the THGPC I wish to bring up to attention the importance that having access to Barnicoat take off through Glider Rd has for the paragliding community and other users.Whichever will be the decision in regards to abandon commercial forestry or not please consider all users.Barnicoat Ridge is a very popular destination for Nelsonians and visitors. It would be of great benefit if in case of total closure of Gliders Road we could access the ridge in alternative ways, in example from Silvan Forest.Critical in the future planning and development of the subdivisions at the foot of Barnicoat Range will be also assuring emergency landing area for paragliders (reserve areas of suitable dimensions). Many locals together with a good number of Kiwi and International visiting pilots will be grateful for that.Support in the organising and use of alternative take offs (like former Kaka Hill and Fringe Hill take off) would be very appreciated too.Kind regards,Ramon Lavia |
| 1183.3 | As an active member of the hang gliding community who accesses flying site all over the country, I request the following points are considered...Access to Glider Rd and the Barnicoat launch sites is maintained.Council support for the extension of hang glider and paraglider launch sites to make them safer.Provision of an emergency landing area at the base of the Barnicoat launch.Council permission to access launch sites previously used by the hang glider/paraglider community, but now denied by Ngati Koata.Vehicle access maintained from along Barnicoat Ridge to the launch.Thank you from the New Zealand flyers and their international guests. |
| 1183.3 | As an active member of the hang gliding community who accesses flying site all over the country, I request the following points are considered...Access to Glider Rd and the Barnicoat launch sites is maintained.Council support for the extension of hang glider and paraglider launch sites to make them safer.Provision of an emergency landing area at the base of the Barnicoat launch.Council permission to access launch sites previously used by the hang glider/paraglider community, but now denied by Ngati Koata.Vehicle access maintained from along Barnicoat Ridge to the launch.Thank you from the New Zealand flyers and their international guests. |
| 1191.3 | We need to keep slash out of our rivers and off our beaches. |
| 1246.3 | I strongly support ending Council's involvement in commercial forestry and wherever possible reverting all Council owned exotic forests to native forests. This would strongly benefit the environment and biodiversity in the Nelson region with associated amenity and economic benefits. It would also serve as a model for other local private exotic forest owners and could inspire them to revert more of their land to native plantings. The topography and geology of much of the forestry land near Nelson, combined with the clear-felling harvest practices, has resulted in unacceptable land erosion and sediment discharge to our rivers and to Tasman Bay. NCC should lead the way to reducing these negative environmental impacts by exiting its involvement with commercial forestry. |
| 1252.1 | This will decrease the fire risk and allow increased access for the mountain biking, walking and paragliding enthusiasts as well as contributing to the establishment of native forest regeneration. I support the continued use of Glider road and access to the Barnicoat launch site as well as establishing an emergency landing site at the base of the hill. Recent housing developments have significantly reduced the landing options and this puts continuing paragliding from Barnicoat in jeopardy. I further support all of the Nelson and Tasman Paragliding and Hangliding club submissions |
| 1257.3 | Continued control of public land leased to forestry without the greater enjoyment of the public for recreational use has to stop. Access to the leased forestry land has been getting worse with forestry incorrectly applying and perhaps doing so deliberately to keep people out 2015 Health and Safety Act, so the lessee can do as they please with out having to manage the public at their cost over the land - the Rodding up behind Barnicoat Hill is a prime example (previous locle foretry allowed access, foreign off shore company purchase no access for New Zelanders). When raised with council, they wash their hands and say it is down to the forestry company because it is leased to them to manage, not good enough. Return to native and encourage public access once again to what belongs to all New Zealanders for recreationally enjoyment. Recreational use will draw far more wellbeing gains and dollars into the locale economy than forestry has shown over decades to at best break even, yet risks tremendous devastation to the landscape as we have recently witnessed in the past year or so. The cost for that deviation born by affected landowners and the the council to clean up or rather the rate payer (ie the houseowner again in rate increases - a double whammy for the house owner). |
| 1305.3 | Great idea from lots of point of view (and especially a flood mitigation point of view). I also look across the Cook Strait and see the amazing work Wellington has done to enhance their native bird populations, using the halo effect of Zealandia (and trapping). We have our own Waimarama sanctuary and if we provide good habitat by converting the pine plantations and implement the 2022 Urban Greening Plan, we might be able to create an amazing city of native birds. These are the kind of treasures that will become more valuable with time. |
| 1324.3 | This is a no brainer. We saw a huge amount of forestry slash in our rivers and sea after the August 2022 floods. I helped clear tahunanui beach, most of that debris was forestry slash. We also need to improve our biodiversity. A dream would be to have the city surrounded by bush like we have in the Brook Waimārama Sanctuary. That would be really special. |
| 1329.3 | This needs to happen as it has been very unsuccessful and a blight on council and during flood events is devastating.I also support developing the spaces in Marsden valley for recreational use.Barnicoat is one of New Zealand's premier paragliding sites i support more development of that site often people congregate at the take off a lovely grassed area for walkers MTBers and pilots all enjoying one of the only places you can enjoy the view I also support trees being planted which support the sport on launch.I also support a landing space being available as land is developed and reserve places are created with trees and plantings which support the sport |
| 1333.3 | I strongly support the council transitioning away from commercial forestry. Although council commercial forests represent only a small percentage of commercial forests they are strategically placed being close to urban areas and sensitive, unique ecological areas such as the mineral belt. Permanet forests offer some protection from climate change risks, reducing flooding and fire hazards. There are also considerable recreational and aesrthetic advantages. Assuming the council proceeds with option there are significant opportunities to partner with community groups which would offer both financial and social rewards. |
| 1348.3 | It is crucial Nelson moves away from single species pine forestry as it a major player in recent environmental degradation. A continuous canopy of mixed species would prevent slips, protecting houses and roads, saving the council more money in the long term. It would also increase the amount of native bush in Nelson Tasman, increasing biodiversity of both plants and animals. |
| 1350.1 | This would be hugely more effective in supporting the environment and biodiversity, reduce silt run off into waterways, and provide better stability for the land. |
| 1367.3 | Definitely need to get out of supporting commercial forestry. So many problems caused by slash. Not just to people's properties but also dangers to water users (like myself), both to locals and to tourists. Along with many others volunteered at beach clean ups clearing up what was 90% slash. Volunteers should not have to sort out problems caused by commercial entities. |
| 1369.3 | Athletics Nelson Inc is the only Athletics New Zealand registered senior club promoting running and walking in the Nelson Tasman area. It caters for athletes from children through to Masters and offers year-round opportunities for road, cross country, track and field, mountain and trail running. Trail running in the hills to the north, east and south of the city is currently experiencing a marked increase in popularity both for recreational and training runs and competitive events. The Club and other event organisers utilize the existing network of tracks on Council and private land and are keen to provide trail runners with new track options for events. We support Option 2 for Council’s approach contained in the Draft NCC LTP 2024-2034. The proposed exit of commercial forestry activities in favour of transitioning to a continuous canopy of mixed species and managing all the Council-owned forests as one area will have considerable long term environmental, social, recreational and financial benefits to the city. These include: Safer areas for recreational users, including runners and walkers, as the fire risk in dry periods should be much reduced by the removal of inflammable pine plantations and their replacement with less inflammable native and exotic species; Hopefully, it will result in far less time when areas with Council plantations are closed to recreational activities, thus preventing access to recreational areas beyond the current plantation forests; Opportunities to add to the current network of tracks for recreational activities which, in turn, will enhance Nelson’s reputation as a great place to visit for trail running, mountain biking and walking activities and events; A significant reduction in adverse health effects on those people who suffer from the effects of pine pollen as a result of the removal of pine plantations; A more attractive environment for recreational activities when exotic plantations are replaced with native and a mix of other species in some areas; No more closures of vital recreational areas to allow for the harvesting of pine plantations; The avoidance of unsightly areas associated with harvesting - slash, stumps, access roads and log handling sites - and the impacts on soil disturbance, erosion and siltation in our streams and rivers in the eastern hills and valleys; Substantially providing increased options for residents to enjoy the personal health benefits of physical exercise. |
| 1404.2 | NCC have the opportunity to lead by example, by transitioning away from pine monoculture in the Maitai Valley. Pine forestry practices in the Maitai have been demonstrated to adversely impact the Maitai River and Nelson Haven, e.g. through sedimentation and associated toxic algal blooms, and slash washout during flood events. These adverse effects should be factored into the cost/benefit analysis when considering a transition away from pine forestry in the catchment. |
| 1450.2 | I support the planting of native and exotic trees to enhance the area and to encourage more recreational use if it is possible to ensure plantings around the existing paragliding & hang gliding launch/landing area are of a suitable distance away and height to allow safe operations to continue from the area. I would consider vehicle access to the top of Barnicoat important as I believe it benefits multiple users of the area. |
| 1461.3 | Essential to maintain ground cover and minimise run off/sedimentation. |
| 1465.1 | As a stakeholder in the Nelson Haven and the marine environment, Nelson Yacht Club fully supports Option 2 - Council’s proposal to exit from commercial forestry over time, and grow a continuous canopy of mixed species. The health of the Haven and the water quality in the marine environment is of particular importance to our community. The downstream effects of commercial forestry including clear-felling practices have had a negative impact on our members and community.logs and debris in the water after a rainfall event - hazards to navigation, risk to recreational users.increased siltation and sedimentation of the harbour - significant growth of sandbars, reduction in water quality, impact on marine life. We believe that putting a stop to commercial forestry and clear-felling practices on council land is a positive step in the right direction. |
| 1466.3 | Recent weather events throughout New Zealand have proven that large scale forestry can be very damaging to our environment and the environment.With the fickle market nature of Pine logs, it is also demonstrated that commercial forestry would bring little to no benefit to NCC managed land.Moving away from short rotation pine crops and re-establishing native species will help support our waterways and coastline recovery. |
| 1495.1 | Forest & Bird supports Option 2 – Exit commercial forestry.Forest & Bird support the implementation of the Right Tree Right Place Taskforce recommendations.Although Option 2 is presented as a more expensive option, we would argue that there are externalized costs not accounted for in continuing with commercial forestry and there are clear benefits in transitioning away from commercial forestry.Externalised costs include erosion and sedimentation impacts, fire risk, and wilding conifer risk.Erosion & sedimentation.Forest & Bird see sedimentation as the second highest risk to biodiversity in the Nelson region after climate change. This is because of the impact of sedimentation on our coastal marine environment. A slip on a steep clear-felled slope in the Maitai Valley during the 2022 weather event damaged Nelson’s water supply, necessitating an expensive repair.Indigenous forest reduces the chance of slips and erosion. A study conducted in Marlborough by GNS Science after the 2022 weather event which resulted in severe erosion, found that “Harvest Forest and exotic forest makes up around about 18% of the land cover (in 2021), yet it contributed something in the order of 65% of the landslides”. And “Data showed that indigenous forest made up close to 50% of the land area, yet it's only contributing maybe 5% of the landslides.”11 Hart, M. (2023, Jul 25). ‘The problem is the forestry’: Human activity a ‘dominat factor’ in Marlborough Sounds Slips. Stuff. Retrieved from: https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-democracy-reporting/132579430/the-problem-is-the-forestry-human-activity-a-dominant-factor-in-marlborough-sounds-slipsFire risk Exotic forestry has a greater fire risk than indigenous forests. Fire risk will increase with our warming climate. Fire risk also reduces opportunities for public recreation in council’s public reserves when they are closed due to fire risk. In addition, this has an impact upon summer tourism and the economy.Benefits to transitioning away from commercial forestry.•Reduced erosion and sedimentation.•Long term Biodiversity benefits from transition to indigenous forest.•Reduced fire risk and greater year-round public recreational access.•Future ETS income from eligible indigenous afforestation. |